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@Gatucu - Oct 07, 2023
Very interesting 👏🏻👏🏻
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@MyKeyStew - Oct 06, 2023
Let's Go!
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@RealYogi - Oct 20, 2023
Thank you for this informative article! Best of luck to DeSo!
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@Goldberry - Oct 06, 2023
Found a typo in this sentence: Ethereum and Solana, you will notice that all of them store their **socail** content off-chain.

Really enjoying this article so far!
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@Goldberry - Oct 06, 2023
@nader Found a second typo: If everyone in crypto continues to use apps that store their content on off-chain centralized databases, like they do now, we are likely to end up re-centralizing crypto at the "applicatoin*** layer." I would be happy to be a proofreader for DeSo for free.☺️
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@thedoctor - Oct 20, 2023
Dear Nader,

You have achieved your goal of succinctly answering both of the questions you set out to.

This article is a beautiful articulation of exactly what I thought (and hoped) DeSo has been aiming for. I believe that the utility and vital importance of DeSo going forward is impossible to overstate. The qualities that have been prioritised in the construction of the DeSo blockchain embody the very heart of decentralisation. It is about so much more than just “cool internet money”.

DeSo is the only social media I have and the only one I have ever been interested in, as it’s the only one I have ever seen that offers a potential, positive solution to the pernicious and broken information landscape that currently surrounds us. It’s not only inevitable, it is absolutely crucial. The potential for DeSo to help steer our world toward a more positive future is immense, and I know you understand this notion at its very core.

Keep grinding mate.

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@IDESofMarch - Oct 06, 2023
It’s a no brainer. Just have to let everyone know!!!! 🚀🚀
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@SwiftD - Oct 07, 2023
I would hope to see a lot more development of the DeSo Chat protocol. It is way too limited in its current guise to tempt mass adoption but will be fundamental for a burgeoning community and an absolute necessity in a decentralise censorship resistant future.
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@nathanwells - Oct 06, 2023
I think it would be more helpful to do a comparison with Lens or ArWeave and sell it that way. No one is building social on ETH L1. Maybe start with this graphic, but then have another with actual comparisons with what has been built on other chains for social.
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@nader - Oct 06, 2023
This is a great thought. I'll answer here in the meantime. Lens is built on Polygon and stores content off-chain because it costs $0.45 per post to store on Polygon. I believe deso.com shows the cost for Polygon, but this graphic doesn't include Polygon. Comparing to Arweave is harder, and what they're doing is definitely more aligned with what DeSo is trying to achieve! DeSo is still cheaper when it comes to content storage, but the key advantage versus Arweave is that DeSo supports all modern DeFi primitives, including NFTs, ERC-20s, etc. So you can build more interesting apps, like BitClout, Diamond and Openfund, that you couldn't build using Arweave.
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@LuisEddie - Oct 06, 2023
I'd say keep an eye on competitors but never compare or acknowledge competitors with a PR. It's a sign of weakness IMO and perhaps the wrong focus. The market will catch on. Keep up the great work Team.
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@nathanwells - Oct 06, 2023
I think that is much more compelling (like that Lens stores stuff off chain etc.). Drawing that out might interest users who are familiar with the space, as well as highlight reasons DeSo being on-chain makes the decentralization vision a possible reality, whereas with Lens if it is off-chain, you still don't have control etc.?
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@thesarcasm - Oct 08, 2023
When pos it's October
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@ilyasydney - Jan 11, 2024
Aite, where do I sign up? LFG!
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@Ashinjohnson - Oct 07, 2023
Ngl that thumbnail goes hard 👀💎
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@jianda_DESO - Oct 06, 2023
There is a problem. If 200 characters are stored on the DESO chain, and thousands or tens of billions of post contents are stored on the blockchain, will it bring huge hardware storage costs and costs to DESO node operators? Maintenance costs. And as time goes by, the number of characters, pictures, and videos in posts continues to increase, which leads to the problem of node operators quitting. Are there any relevant articles about this? @mossified @deso
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@nader - Oct 07, 2023
It's designed to scale with these costs! A dynamic block reward ensures node operators continue to run nodes even after storage costs increase. See detailed analysis here: https://diamondapp.com/u/nader/blog/putting-a-trillion-dollar-industry-on-chain
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@jianda_DESO - Oct 07, 2023
Ok, thanks
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@Bafq - Oct 07, 2023
❤️
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@TheIdeaGuy - Oct 07, 2023
@nader in addition to your reply to @nathanwells on ARWeave, isn't the key differentiator that deso's specialization is in creating an index of identity and content combined whereas ARWeave is in itself not an index and doesn't have identity. More simply put, DESO is a blockchain of who said what. Whereas ARweave is just a blockchain of what. A simple example is mirror.xyz which takes identity from ens and content storage on ARweave but the entire database of which identity said what isn't open. It's still centrally held by the mirror.xyz team. Until the entire index is available publicly you'd still have to rely on a central database of who said what like Twitter for distribution of the content which becomes a choke point. DESO doesn't compete with Ethereum OR ARweave because none of them bring index of identity <-> content on chain. In fact a likely outcome is at least initially, the crypto community might still use ens identity and ARweave content on DESO (which is supported using metamask integration). DESO is the bridge between identity systems on blockchains (like ENS/ SNS) and content systems blockchains (like Livepeer/ ARweave/ IPFS/ etc). Is my understanding correct?
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@mossified - Oct 08, 2023
Yup, you nailed it. DeSo does storage *and* indexing of content. Both are notoriously difficult problems for blockchains that also have financial primitives.
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@ZeroToOne - Oct 09, 2023
How does storing content on DeSo's chain work exactly? Let's say one block is 80kb. How does DeSo store an image of 3mb for example? Across multiple blocks?
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@Farmercist_eth - Oct 07, 2023
I just joined today, help me build a big community here. Buy some of my tickets, I will buy yours.
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@MrCryptoBeast - Nov 07, 2023
$FIL storage costs $0.19 per TB. How can DESO compete with this? LOL.
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@maffi - Oct 30, 2023
Current storage costs on a chain that has basically no load is totally irrelevant Long Term.
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