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@JDArmstrong - Nov 14, 2022
Love this concept. However, I'm curious. You'll recall my first article on Zirkels, "Have we been rugged?" It was quite a critical piece.
I do believe it is part of a writers job to write pieces that make people think. Consider alternate points of view. Prompt discussion, sometimes heated. Bring out peoples passion. I've often said, if your writing doesn't offend someone, you're not doing it right.
I wonder how that kind of writing would be viewed under this framework.
Having said that, I don't mean offend for the sake of offending. We should push the boundaries. There is no place for hate speech or promoting violence against any group. There is a place in a healthy community/society for censorship. Unfortunately a healthy society is a rare thing. Once humans are integrated into any system, it becomes corrupted. Which is what we see with ridiculous book bans. Ie 1984 banned by Russia for being anti communism. Banned by US for being pro communism. When it is neither.
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@dennishlewis - Nov 15, 2022
Hey @JDArmstrong - it is definitely a delicate balance. This is not about censoring content - I totally agree that if your content is trying to please everyone, it's almost certainly not worth reading. That being said, because human nature is what it is, communities (of homo sapiens) almost always need clear rules to keep us in line. Even if breaking the rules is sometimes exactly what needs to be done. The idea behind the reputation score is to create a mechanism that incentivizes people to behave on @Zirkels the same way they'd behave in person.
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@dennishlewis - Nov 15, 2022
For now, what you write doesn't affect your reputation score. It's all about how much you engage on @zirkels. In the future, I'd like to imagine a mechanism where other users could "challenge" an article or user that they believe is wrong. And then perhaps allow a "jury" of reputable users come to a decision regarding the challenge. But this is still a ways off. Also, maybe a way for users to "flag" trolls. So that if enough flags are given said user's rep score would suffer. But these types of mechanisms would need a way to appeal too...
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@JDArmstrong - Nov 15, 2022
I mean. It is what it is. If anyone is going to test the system and find bugs. It's going to be me. Lol
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@JDArmstrong - Nov 15, 2022
Also, I swear like a drunk Australian sailor. Because I was a drunk Australian sailor for 7 years. And a drunk Australian ex sailor for about 20 years after that. Lol. Does swearing affect it? I'm not excessive with swearing in my writing. But have been known to drop a few here and there. It's the Aussie way.. generally... lol.
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@JDArmstrong - Nov 15, 2022
Right.. which I've always made that effort to do. What you see/interact with online. Is what you get in person. I've got no qualms saying to anyone to their face, what I'd say online or in a private conversation. Definitely wasn't concerned about censorship. I'm more for a degree of censorship than everyone has free speech no matter what (that's not what the constitution is protecting anyway) Just curious how that, or similar style article would affect my reputation score.
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@TomFenske - Nov 14, 2022
Hey @zirkels, big news! I do like the idea of a reputation score influencing several mechanics on the platform and thus, incentivizing community-benevolent behaviour. Aligned interests between users and the platform are the recipe for growth!

That being said, I do understand your take in using an activity metric that influences the reputation score, but I'd love for the (upcoming) community-driven metrics to have the major influence on the reputation score.

By using the engagagement metrics (likes, comment, rewards, etc.) you can pick into swarm intelligence to actually separate the "good content" from the other stuff you mentioned in your introduction.

They have a pretty straightforward system over there at Publish0x by using thumbs up/thumbs down and a similar one on Steemit/Hive by using upvotes and downvotes. On Steemit/Hive there are even creator benefits for actively curating fresh content, so this might be some food for thought.

Nevertheless, I'm impressed by the speed you're implementing features and I hold high hopes for the future of this platform!
Cheers, Tom
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@dennishlewis - Nov 15, 2022
Hey @TomFenske - thanks for your feedback! Since the very beginning @zirkels has had a content scoring algorithm that does exactly that! It takes into account views, likes, diamonds, rewards, comments etc. This is what drives the order of articles all throughout the site. I wrote an article about this a while back: https://zirkels.com/a/how-the-zirkels-article-scoring-algorithm-works User reputation scoring is all about the person and not so much about the content. Because I don't want @zirkels to become another centralized platform forced to police bad actors, we are really thinking about how to create mechanisms that put this power back in to the hands of the community. Things we're thinking about are: How do we determine if what you're saying is true? What recourse do you have? How does the community reject total assholes who are just being purposely hurtful? How do we encourage healthy debate without increasing the polarization that is tearing us apart? I certainly don't pretend to have answers to these questions, but we are trying to develop new ways of addressing these types of problems.
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@TomFenske - Nov 15, 2022
You're very welcome, @dennishlewis ! Thanks for the additional hint at the content scoring algorithm, but as you said, the positive engagement on the content in itself does not necessarily speak for the user's reputation and behaviour. You may take a look the upvoting/downvoting functionality that some publishing platforms already have integrated, so users can explicitly give positive and negative feedback which can then also influence the reputation metric of the author. It is even thinkable to reward people with extra points on their own reputation score (maybe limited with a daily maximum to prevent abuse) if they give feedback and thus, help curating the content on the platform. Also, one could think of giving the "votes" of people with higher rep scores more weight.
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@HashtagHelper - Nov 14, 2022
#Zirkels
https://member.cash/t/Zirkels
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